In this episode with the other half of 2FabFitChicks, Ashley Jensen, we dive into her collegiate running experience, balancing training with hard work weeks, longevity in the sport, overcoming self-doubt and dreaming big. Ashley Jensen is a former Division I runner for Providence College and the University of Southern California. She is currently working with coach Ray Tracey, has won six trail races this past fall and set two course records. Her greatest running achievement to date was placing 5th at the 2015 Xterra World Championships 21k. 

Questions we ask Ashley include:

How did you get your start in running?

You ran cross country and track at both Providence College and the University of Southern California. What was this experience like?

What did you major in?

What was your transition from high school to college like?

When did you know you need a break from running? When did you know when you were ready to come back?

Your events included the steeplechase, 5k and 10k. I am wondering if you would mind expanding on the steeplechase. We haven’t had many others on the podcast aside from Megan!

In talking about steeplechase and Xterra races, what would you say draws you to these races?

Now that you are no longer running in college you have had the opportunity to run a variety of different races. Do you have a favorite distance, race or event?

How do you balance 80+ weeks with your full-time job?

What has been your biggest lesson in running?

What does the future of 2fabfitchicks hold?

Next race?

What is currently making you thrive?

What would you achieve your longevity in this sport to?

What advice would you give your younger self?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick/fabfit chick mean to you?

How can listeners connect with you?

Memorable quotes/themes: Believing in yourself

Handling self-doubt: “Put the [doubt] demons to bed… you’ve put the work in, you’ve hit the long runs, you’ve had the buildup… it’s about believing you belong there.” 

Dreaming big and setting reach goals: “Don’t limit yourself. You still can hit those PR’s and the opportunities can still keep coming.”

Keys to longevity in the sport: fueling your body (food), sleep, knowing when to take a break and always being honest with your coach.


We interview Gina Lucrezi, founder of a women's online running community called Trail Sisters!

Gina’s roots stem from short distances on the track, but after a few wild jaunts on the trails she was convinced to trade in her beloved speedy flat asphalt for rugged desolate mountain terrain. Her proudest achievements include a 5th place finish at the highly competitive CCC 100k, completing the Western States Endurance Run (100 miles), winning a USA Track & Field 10k Trail Champion title, and being awarded a 10 time NC-double A All-American while in college (including one NCAA National Title).

Off the trail, Gina has spent 10 years working in the outdoor industry with a focus in the marketing arena. Gina's athletic and work experiences were the reason she was compelled to start a women's trail running online journal:!

Questions we ask Gina include:

How did you get your start in running?

What was the transition like from running on the track to the trails?

What are some main differences between road running and trail running?

What advice do you have for strength training to avoid injuries while trail running? Have you worked through injuries in your career?

Tell us about your experience running the Western States Endurance run!

Do you train for most of these races alone? What role does community play in training?

How did you create Trail Sisters and what was your mission behind this?

Take us back to when you first started…

Listener question from Chelsie: First off, she wants to say a giant thank you for all the work you’ve done! Chelsie says, “As a female runner just getting into trail running, Trail Sisters is everything to me.” She is also curious: is Trail Sisters different now from how you envisioned it to be?

Anything new and exciting in your life currently? What’s making you thrive?

What advice would you give your younger self?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick / Trail Sister mean to you?

How can listeners connect with you?

Special thanks to InsideTracker, a biomarker performance testing system and one of our SRC Retreat sponsors. Use the code "SRC" for 10% off your first test!


This week we bring you a special NEDA episode in honor of National Eating Disorder Awareness Week, featuring Hannah Frazee, a former NCAA distance runner who shares her honest and transparent story of her eating disorder, seeking treatment and the process towards recovery.

Bio: Hannah began her love of running at ten years old and admits that it was love at first run, or post race party. She participated in cross country and track in middle school and high school and was offered a scholarship to run at the University of Northern Iowa. Hannah ran cross country during the start of her freshman year; however after treatment for eating disorder, came to the realization that it would be best for her to pursue other fitness opportunities. Hannah still runs for fun, and has begun to find the fun in running again without having the pressure of running at the Division 1 level.

Questions we ask Hannah include:

How did you get your start in running?

What was your running experience like in middle and high school?

Would you mind telling us about your transition into collegiate running?

You wrote a very honest piece for SRC titled, “55 Rules that were Meant to be Broken.” What was your inspiration behind writing this piece?

Based on this feature, it seems as though running and your eating disorder consumed you life. How did you know it was time to seek help?

You have been working though recovery at the Victory Program. What has this process been like for you? What changes have you seen in yourself?

What’s new and exciting in the life of Hannah? What is making your thrive?

What advice would you give your younger self?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick mean to you?

Find out more information at and help spread awareness with hashtag #NEDAAwareness.


In this episode, we chat with Elinor about self-compassion, stress and the effects it has on our body, practicing mindful running, bringing together women through running retreats and more.

Introduction: Elinor Fish has worked in the travel, tourism and running industries since 1999. The Canadian ex-pat, who now calls Colorado home, has long been an avid trail runner, writer and champion for women’s participation in the sport. She spent four years as the managing editor of Trail Runner magazine, during which she founded Run Wild Retreats + Wellness in 2010. Throughout this time, Elinor’s personal health challenges led her to a deeper mindfulness practice. She soon recognized ways to blend running with mindfulness to create one powerful practice that could alleviate the effects of at-times debilitating chronic auto-immune diseases. 

Questions we ask Elinor include:

How did you get your start in running?

For four years, you were the managing editor of Trail Running Magazine. What was this experience like?

It was working at Trail Running Magazine that you founded Run Wild Retreats + Wellness. What was your basis for developing these retreats? Why did you feel the need to create the retreats?

A major part of Mindful Running is reducing stress. What are some of the positive impacts that you have witness from those who attend the retreats?

During this time, you went through some personal health struggles that led you to develop your own practice with mindfulness. Would you mind telling us about this time?

What does mindfulness practice look and feel like for you?

How would you suggest listeners develop their own mindfulness practice in day-to-day life?

We would love to hear more about how you blend mindfulness and running.

Frustration and mindfulness?

Tell us what a typical day at the Run Wild Retreat might involve.

What is next for Run Wild Retreats + Wellness? 


What is currently making you thrive?

What advice would you give your younger self?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick (or Mindful Runner Chick) mean to you?

How can listeners connect with you (or sign up for a retreat!)


You may know her on Instagram as Racin Grayson. Meet Grayson Murphy, a three-time All-American collegiate runner at University of Utah, originally from Salt Lake City, as well as a top civil engineering major with plans to run professionally after college. Grayson was featured in our How the Collegiates Fuel series and recently started a blog of her own. 

Questions we ask Grayson include:

How did you get your start in running?

How did this lead to you playing collegiate soccer and then choosing to pursue running?

What have you noticed are differences between soccer and running?

You have had quite the collegiate experience after transferring colleges three times! (from Sweet Briar to Santa Clara to Utah). Can you tell us more about what this process has been like?

As a civil engineering major, how do you balance running, academics and your future career aspirations (as well as finding an identity outside of running)?

You write that one of your lessons learned in 2017 is “Not everything has to be a goal.” What do you mean by saying this and what advice do you have for listeners who make everything into a goal?

What do you see for your future as an athlete?

You wrote a blog post titled, “When you fall down, you get back up,” on making it to the NCAA Indoor National Championships in 2017 and breaking 16 minutes in the 5k. What was breaking this barrier like for you? What do you think help you achieved this incredible feat?

What is something IG followers/fans might not know about you? (can be a random fact, or something that’s making you thrive lately).

What’s your go-to racing mantra and/or favorite running quote?

What advice would you give your younger, pre-college self?

What does being a Strong and Brave Runner Chick mean to you?

How can listeners connect with you?


In this BONUS episode, we welcome back Gabi Maudiere! Since our first chat together, Gabi has accomplished some incredible feats!!

Questions we ask Gabi include:

-Since the last time we chatted, what has made you thrive?

-Recently you were working through  finals...what are some of you self-care habits during this time?

-You finished your 100-mile race and you CAME IN FIRST PLACE (holy moly!!). Would you mind telling us about this experience?

-What was your mindset like at different stages of the race?

-What physiologically happens during to your body during a 100-mile race?

-How do you handle these physical/mental challenges? Nutrition/fueling? Aches/pains?

-Recently you announced that you have begun run coaching! What was your draw to do this?

-What sorts of services will you offer?

-How do your services differ from other coaches?

-How can listeners connect with you to schedule coaching?


Learn more about Neely Spence Gracey, Professional Runner for Adidas, soon-to-be mom and a special guest at our Strong Runner Chick Retreat this summer of 2018!

Neely was born into this sport, literally. Her dad (Steve Spence, 1992 Olympic marathoner and 1991 World Champs Bronze Medalist) was running the Boston Marathon on the day she was born. She grew up in Shippensburg, Pennsylvania and in 8th grade set some big goals for herself, which led her to run for Shippensburg University, where she broke several records and was named conference athlete of the year for every season she competed. She is an eight-time NCAA Division II Champion and still holds two NCAA records.

In 2016, Neely debuted at the Boston Marathon and was the first American finisher in 2:35. Later that year, she took it a step further with 2:34 and 8th place finish at the NYC marathon, following up with several 2017 victories. She is excited for what the next year will bring as she pauses her running career to start a family. She ultimately hopes to build towards the 2020 Olympic year.

Today, Neely lives in Boulder, CO with her husband Dillon and their Vizsla, Strider. They are happily entrenched in the running community. Between training, and competing, she enjoys coaching her team of athletes through her Get Running coaching business.

Questions we ask Neely include:

How did you get your start in running?

Your dad was an Olympic Marathoner and World Championship Bronze!! Since running was such a major part of his life, did you ever feel pressured to continue in his footsteps?

Tell us about your experience running as a girl in Shippensburg, PA. What was it like being homeschooled?

Many teens have the desire to attend university elsewhere, but you decided to stay in your hometown. What was your reasoning behind this?

What was your collegiate running experience like? How could it have been better? What was it like to have your dad as a coach?

We would love to hear about your top American finish and 13th in the World in the 2013 World Cross Country championships in Poland!

Several bouts of illness and injury have kept you from competing in the past (most notably at the 2012 and 2016 Olympic Trials). How did you physically and mentally combat these unfortunate circumstances? What advice do you have for others dealing with injury or illness?

In 2016, you makes your debut at the Boston Marathon coming in as the top American and ninth overall. What was this experience like for you?

Recently you announced that you will be welcoming an addition into your home! Congrats! What does this mean for you, Dillon, and Strider? Do you hope to continue to run?

What is currently making you thrive?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick mean to you?

How can listeners/readers connect with you?

Also: are you currently accepting new running coaching clients?


Jill is a former collegiate soccer player, triathlete, marathoner, and ultrarunner who went through almost five years of amenorrhea before finally addressing her issues to get healthy. Shocked at just how much she didn't know about hormones and menstrual health for athletes, she decided to share her research and wisdom on both Hypothalamic Amenorrhea and Overtraining Syndrome through her YouTube channel. Her passion for counseling others even led her to go back to school to Harvard University's Extension School where she is pursuing a Master's Degree in Psychology in order to fully support athletes in their path to health.

Questions we ask Jill include:

How did you get your start in running?

Tell us about your experience with amenorrhea.

How did you know something was wrong?

What did you hear from other people? Was it normalized?

When/how did you get the courage to seek help?

Would you mind describing to our listeners overtraining syndrome?

What happens when a person is doing “everything right,” but isn’t getting their period?

What would you suggest for people to take the first few steps for healing?

What role does stress play in amenorrhea?

You write that you hope to see a world where all women get their periods. How do you hope to accomplish this?

What are some of the ways that listeners can help themselves and others?

What are some of your favorite resources that you would recommend?

What are you currently up to? What is making you thrive?

What advice would you give to your younger self?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick mean to you?

How can readers/listeners connect with you?


This week we welcome marathoner and Oiselle professional runner to the show, Allie Kieffer! Allie is a 30 year old Buffalo, NY native who was exposed to running at an early age. In middle school, Allie found solace darting through the wooded single track trails and has been in love since. She is the former indoor marathon world record holder, fifth place finisher in the NYC Marathon (2nd place American), and most recently won the Doha Half Marathon. Allie admits that the other career she fantasizes about is being a mother and her superpower is believing in herself.

Questions we ask Allie include:

How did you get your start in running?

Where did you attend university? What did you study?

Would you mind describing to us about your experience running in college?

We would love to hear from you your experience of the NYC Marathon!

What was going through your head during the race? Were you expecting to PR by so much or did you surprise yourself?

At the beginning of the year you wrote an article for Self titled, “My Weight has Nothing to do with How Good a Runner I Am.” What was your reasoning behind writing this article?

What response have you received from it?

In the article you mentioned various times where people mentioned that you were a “bigger runner” or “that you could run so well for being built bigger.” I can imagine that hearing these words didn’t always sit well with you. How did you adopt a mentality to ward off those negative thoughts about body image and weight?

What advice do you have for athletes who are experiencing similar experiences?


How did you manage to gain weight quickly after realizing that you had lost enough to impact your performance negatively?

We LOVE your habit of adding as many nutrients to you possibly can instead of focusing on calories. How do you go about achieving this?

What are some of your favorite foods that pack a nutrient punch?

You recently signed with Oiselle (whoot-whoot!). What was the driving force behind that decision?

In your first race as a Bird you won the Doha Half Marathon! How did it feel to win this race and represent Oiselle?

How do you “get in the zone” before races? Are there any special things you do to get ready?

Instead.. Any favorite recovery methods?

What’s next in the life of Allie Kieffer (can be running related or not!)?

What is currently making you thrive?

What advice would you give to your younger self?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick mean to you?

How can our listeners connect with you?


Today we have on Katie, former collegiate runner and current blogger at 2FabFitChicks! Katie’s love of running came randomly in the 7th grade and has lasted her since. She went on to run and become captain cross country, indoor and outdoor track in high school and ran for Boston College. More recent race highlights include: 1st place Xterra Georgia Battle at Big Creek 5 mile, 1st place Xterra Little Mulberry Creek 10k, 7th place Spinx Marathon and 14th place Savannah Rock N Roll Half. She is now a blogger with friend, Ashley, at 2FabFitChicks.

Questions we ask Katie include:

How did you get your start in running?

You are a former D1 athlete, running for Boston College. What was your D1 experience like?

Tell us more about how you started 2FabFitChicks with your friend, Ashley... How has this shaped your friendship?

What are a few lessons you've learned along your journey in running?

Give us a glimpse into your life outside of running.

What are you currently training for? Any exciting life news/updates?

What advice would you give to your younger self?

What does being a Strong Runner Chick mean to you?


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